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Do Women Promote Themselves As Sex Objects?

posted Wednesday, 14 January 2009

Why do adolescent boys masturbate furiously

and adolescent girls don't? That might go some way

to explaining the male mindset. The female mindset

seems to be one of pleasuring/gratifying men

by arousing them. Maybe female desire is to be desired

Women take the whole sex object thing so seriously

Men like looking at the female form. The firmer the better

It doesn't mean we objectify ALL women in society ALL the time

Objectifying the female body is very much part of male

sex psychology. It is not every part, not the whole part

but I would suggest that objectification is more a part

of male sexuality than it is for females. We are talking

generalizations here but themes can certainly be identified

Compare the gay male scene with the lesbian scene

Unadulterated male sexuality can be very aggressive and

objectifying.Generally, male sexual expression is lustful

Can the same be said of women's sexual expression?

Men Just Want to Fuck. Women Want to Be

Desired First. Therein Lies the Difference

It is too easy to blame lad culture for today's brand of sexism.

Women have to stop lying about their own complicity.

Women have been debating whether lad mags are sexist for so long that the average media studies sixth-former could probably have scripted most of yesterday's discussion on Radio 4.

One of the genre's leading titles, Nuts, launched its own cable TV channel last night, and a Nuts TV spokesperson was invited on to Today to persuade the feminist writer Natasha Walter that the station was in no way sexist.

Nuts TV's female - naturally - executive offered the familiar, if outlandish, proposition that lad mags "celebrate" and "respect" women.

Walter said that's funny, because they look exactly like a vision of old-fashioned sexism, not female empowerment.

Walter is so self-evidently right that you wonder how this "debate" can still be taking place. The reason - and the problem - is that the feminist critique has consistently failed to account for women's own complicity in the genre.

The Nuts website, for example, features a page called Assess My Breasts, inviting men to study photos of naked breasts and rank them - which doesn't seem particularly respectful.

But the thousands of images have been uploaded by ordinary women - "entirely voluntarily", for free, as the spokeswoman took pleasure pointing out.

Without these willing armies of female volunteers, there would be no breasts for any readers of Nuts to assess - or any of the "Real Girls!" beloved of porn shoots, and no "High Street Honeys" for FHM porn scouts to find.

"A lot of young women feel very angry" about lad mag culture, Walter still insisted - but the evidence is, regrettably, against her.

Circulation figures for lad mags have actually been plummeting; fewer and fewer men are buying them, and the genre's bubble is widely believed to have burst.

More and more women, however, are giving every impression that they would consider it a compliment - indeed a triumph - to be objectified in the manner of a cover girl.

A recent American book, Pornified, chronicles countless cases of schoolchildren videoing themselves having sex - on the school bus, surprisingly often - and distributing the footage via their mobile phones.

I had hoped this was a peculiarly American phenomenon, but at a London school where a teacher I know works, a pupil recently videoed a younger girl giving him a blowjob in the school toilets, then uploaded her performance straight on to YouTube.

I used to think that rumours about normal, well-adjusted teenage girls posting topless pictures in chat rooms for boys they had never even met were alarmist myths.

But I spent some time around 12-year-olds this summer, and it turns out they are absolutely true.

This week FHM was censured for publishing a photograph of a topless 14-year-old without her consent - but the real shock came in FHM's revelation that it receives more than 1,200 submissions of women topless or in lingerie every single week.

It is no wonder a lot of men now genuinely believe that women want to be treated as sex objects. Who could blame them when so many of us have internalised an exhibitionistic ideal of our own objectification?

You could argue, I suppose, that women who put headless photos of their naked torsos on to the internet are still suffering the legacy of millennia of male sexual oppression. But there must come a point where it is simply implausible to keep blaming men.

"The beauty industry is a monster, selling unattainable dreams. It lies, it cheats, it exploits women."

The woman who said that was mourned this week as a progressive feminist heroine - so it's a pity, and a puzzle, that Anita Roddick spent her life encouraging women to buy into it - but she was far from alone.

Postfeminists in the 90s assured women they could safely re-embrace their "femininity" without sacrificing equality or credibility.

And so manicures, and Brazilian bikini waxes and pole-dancing classes were all reintroduced under the guise of harmless girly "fun". Barely 10 years later, we look in the mirror and mistake ourselves for sex workers.

If we do not want to find channels like Nuts TV on our televisions, we are going to have to stop lying to ourselves and each other.

That would mean we have to stop buying pre-teen daughters T-shirts that say Babe In Training or Born To Shop, or taking them to see Bratz: The Movie.

It means not reading any more magazines devoted to laughing at a celebrity for having a sweatmark on her dress, and not watching any more Living TV - the closest female equivalent on cable to Nuts TV, being targeted explicitly at women and consisting almost exclusively of programmes about breast enlargement.

It is hard to see how men can be expected to notice a distinction between professional sex objects and the vast majority of women if we can't tell the difference ourselves.

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1. midnight special left...
Thursday, 13 September 2007 9:24 pm

Dear Feminists

I believe that feminists should return to their liberal roots and stop this creeping talibanisation. Yes, lets do more to protect children. Let's even consider regulating what they can wear or how shops and advertisers target them. But for adults leave them be.

For reasons best known to her, mother nature has made female bodies more visually attractive/stimulating to straight men than vice versa.

There are numerous men willing and able to sell their bodies and feature in porn directed at women but women are just not as interested as men.

  • Porn directed at gay men is much more profitable than porn directed at women. Even lesbian porn will make more money directed at straight men than lesbian women or feminists.


2. The Hedonistic Pleasureseeker left...
Saturday, 15 September 2007 1:49 pm :: http://hedonisticpleasureseeker.wordpres

As is anything worth contemplating this subject is complex and sometimes confusing, and bad feelings that come out of debate are often the fault of:

a. semantics b. knee-jerk reactions

Radical feminists are not anti-sex, and the term sex OBJECT was coined for a good reason. We ladies fancy ourselves SEXUAL HUMAN BEINGS. Unfortunately we suffer rude awakenings when we enter the grownup realm and discover that (most) men treat us like subhuman members of the "Sex Class," servants hired on the cheap. We find ourselves recruited, rented, leased, bought, stolen, sold, consumed, recycled and/or trashed, and wonder why relationships with men are so difficult. The sad truth is that our interactions with most men are not relationships; they're transactions. It's very sad. Usually we don't get hip to this until after the age of 40.

As for promoting ourselves as sex objects? With the possible exception of mimes and fashion models we don't think of ourselves as objects in the first place. We're selfless when it comes to pleasing men because we were raised to treat our feelings/goals as less important then the men we are supposed to serve. Trust me: Women who transcend the slave mentality are pretty demanding when it comes to sex.

Women's interest in sex and exhibitionism vary from person to person because we're, well, PEOPLE. For instance, I'm extremely sexual and very much an exhibitionist. About a third of the photographs I post on my web log make this very clear! What keeps me from feeling like a commodity is the reams of text that accompany the pictures. My blog is a diary and my humanity is splattered all over the internet for anyone to see. Anyone who can't see this is dumber than rocks.

Occasionally other bloggers ask, "If you're so feminist, why do you show pictures of yourself in a demeaning way?" They think female nudity and sexuality in the public sphere are demeaning. Think this attitude through for awhile and thoughtful people will usually conclude "That's whack, WTF? She's just a human being, being human." Unfortunately the typical unenlightened man isn't that thoughtful when it comes to sex: Stimulus, response. Stimulus, response, like amoebas. Boooooooring . . .

As for women not being as sexual as men . . . pffffft . . . honey please! We ladies are just socialized to NOT allow that part of us to be seen in the public sphere. Women AND men are all over the map when it comes to desire: Sometimes the fire rages, sometimes not . . .


3. Sandrine Levêque left...
Tuesday, 13 January 2009 12:01 pm :: http://www.thefword.org.uk/features/2009

We have seen an explosion in the pornification of culture. As pornography has crept into mainstream culture we have become increasingly desensitised to the sexualisation of women as commodities in our advertising, media and everyday lives: what is referred to as “sex object culture”.

The piece of the puzzle often missing in discussions around this: sexism: sex object culture is often mistaken for a generic ‘sexualisation of culture’. We hear that sex is everywhere; that Britons can’t get enough of it. Yet it is not sex that is everywhere, but porn.

Porn-inspired use of women and girls’ bodies as commodities, whether to sell newspapers, beer or holidays to Greece, is increasingly ubiquitous in a way that has little or no parallel for men or boys and feeds a sexist culture in which it is normal or ‘ironic’ to treat women as sex objects, not people.